7th Pay commission may drop the Pay Band-Grade Pay System
ALL INDIA AUDIT & ACCOUNTS ASSOCIATION
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Reference: AIA/Circular-10/2015
Dated: 28th March 2015
To
Unit Secretaries,
Members & Spl. Invitees NE &
Members of Women’s Committee
Dear Comrades,
TENDERING OF ORAL EVIDENCE BEFORE 7 CPC
The 7th CPC had invited the All India Audit & Accounts Association for tendering oral evidence on 27th March 2015 at its office at Qutub Institutional Area, New Delhi. In addition to the Secretary General, Coms M Duraipandian, V Nageswara Rao, KL Gautam and Anilkumar appeared before the Commission for the oral evidence. The Commission was present in full strength.
The following demands were placed before the Commission:
1. Upgradation of LDC to GP 2400
2. Correcting the distortions in the implementation of 6 CPC recommendations with respect to IA&AD and organized Accounts viz.
i) grant of GP 4200 to Auditor/Accountant
ii) grant of GP 4600 to SA, granting parity with Assistants of CSS
and iii) grant of GP 5400 to AAO on completion of 4 years.
3. Grant promotion to SA to GP 4800 and higher starting pay of PB 2, 5400 to AAO and space for further career advancements for these cadres.
There was detailed discussion on each of our demands. It was pointed out by us that CAG of India has also recommended each of the above demand and also grant of GP 6600 and 7600 to AOs and SAOs. The Chairman appreciated it. The commission assured to take a positive look on our demands which are also supported by CAG.
The demands were explained in its historical background and also on functional basis. The recommendations of the past pay commissions were also brought to the notice of the CPC. The award by the Central Board of Arbitration in favour of the employees in respect of parity between SA and Assistants in CSS was particularly pointed out. Chairman expressed his unhappiness on the non implementation of the award by the employees and workers.
On our demand for career progression for SA and AAO, the Commission stated that though it is sympathetic, it is not sure what could be done, given the hierarchical structure available in IA&AD.
We also raised the issue of re-introduction of Touring Special Pay and pointed out to the Award that was won by the All India Audit & Accounts Association from the Board of Arbitration and its rejection by the Parliament in 2002.
We further requested for introduction of 4 advance increments on passing of Departmental Confirmatory examination, explaining the system prevailed before 3rd CPC, recommendation of 3rd CPC following which it was discontinued and its re-introduction in 1981 an amount equivalent to 3 increments. We pointed out the conversion of this Qualification pay into deemed allowance after 5 CPC and requested for its re-introduction.
During the discussion the Chairman observed that the commission is of the view to discard the PB-GP system.
ORAL EVIDENCE BY STAFF SIDE, NC, JCM
On 23-24 March 2015, the Standing Committee of Staff Side, NC, JCM, tendered the oral evidence before the 7 CPC. The delegation was led by SHri Raghavaiah, Leader, Staff Side and Com Shiva Gopal Mishra, Secretary, Staff Side. Com KKN Kutty presented the memorandum on behalf of the NC, JCM. The gist of discussion is given in the enclosed Circular issued by Com Shiva Gopal Mishra, Secretary, Staff Side.
The Pay Commission stated that the principle that would guide to determine the minimum wage shall be Dr Aykroid formula on it (ie 15 ILC norms). It has further stated its intention to do away with pay band/grade pay system. On some other issues, the Pay Commission has sought the views of the Staff Side (which shall be conveyed to the Commission shortly).
With greetings,
Yours fraternally
(M.S.Raja)
Secretary General
National Council (Staff Side)
Shiva Gopal Mishra Joint Consultative Machinery
Secretary for Central Government Employees
13-C, Ferozshah Road, New Delhi – 110001
E mail : nc.jcm.np@gmail.com
Dear Comrades,
The 7th CPC had asked the JCM Staff Side to present their case before the Commission for wage revision on 23rd and 24th March 2015. Accordingly, the Standing Committee of the Staff Side met on 22nd March and again 23rd March 2015. The presentation was made on 23rd and 24th March 2015 before the Commission.
We have discussed the memorandum, chapter wise and the Commission made a very patient hearing and interacted with us seeking clarifications on certain matters. It is not possible to provide a detailed account of the discussions. However we are to inform you that we came out of the discussion with a very good impression and satisfaction.
1. The Commission will adopt Minimum Wage Concept (Dr. Aykhroid Formula) as the principle of wage determination. They will however, collect the retail rates of the commodities that go into the basket.
2. We have pleaded for the adoption of the best international practices while fixing the highest salary.
3. On the demands for Interim Relief and Merger of DA, the Commission finally said that those can only be considered if Terms of Reference are amended.
4. The Commission agreed that there had been reduction in the sanctioned strength and working strength over the years despite the increased workload.
5. They have also noted that there was substantial reduction in percentage terms of the expenses on salary and wages over the years.
6. The Commission enquired, as to how multiplication factor of 3.7 was arrived at. The same was explained in detail.
7. Fitment Formula and the demand on Fixation of Pay on Promotion, were appreciated as the rationale was explained.
8. Date of effect: No commitment or comment was made by the Commission. The Staff Side explained, as to how they compromised by shifting the date from 01.01.2011 to 01.01.2014.
. The institution of Special Pay, especially in the wake of de-layering was explained.
10. Common Categories:
We have requested the upgradation and amalgamation of the cadres of LDC with UDC and the need for bringing about parity in pay scales of the Subordinate Offices with the Central Secretariat. The problems of Staff Car Drivers were also elaborated. The contractorisation and casualization at lower level positions and the consequent exploitation of the labour were discussed at length. The Commission has made a proposal to do away with the contractorisation/casualization. Staff side will discuss the proposal and will send its views to the Commission in due course.
11. Classification of Posts: Our proposal has not been found favour.
12. GDS: While sympathizing with the Staff Side, the Commission wanted them to approach the Government with a view to amend the Terms of Reference.
13. Allowances and Advances:
Detailed discussions were held on HRA, CCA, Transport Allowance, CEA and Special Allowance for personnel posted at North East Region. Chapters dealing with the facilities were also discussed at length, including compassionate appointment. On holidays, we have requested to include May Day in the list of holidays. The background of observance of May Day enquired by the Commission and explained.
14. Pension and Retirement Benefit – NPS:
Commission stated categorically that NPS being an Act of Parliament, they will not make any comment thereon.
Pension Computation: The rationale of 67% was explained and appreciated.
Minimum Pension: our demand for 2/3rd of the Minimum Wage was also explained.
Parity in pension of past and present pensioners was fully explained, linked with one rank –one pension scheme for Defence Personnel. We have pleaded that Civilian Pensioners should not be discriminated against. Demand for Additional Pension for both Pensioners and Family Pensioners was explained. All matters concerning Family Pension were also discussed. So also, gratuity to be computed in accordance with the Gratuity Act.
There was good response for the demands from the Commission.
Restoration of commuted value of pension: The Commission will enquire the views of the Government as to what is their objection to the demand.
Medical facilities for pensioners and discrimination between Pensioners in CGHS area and CCS(MA) Area as also the Postal Pensioners was brought home including the higher Fixed Medical Allowance for ESI persons.
Certain clarification/elucidations have been asked for by the Commission. To provide such clarification, another meeting with the Commission might be held after the Commission’s interaction with other organizations. The Staff Side may meet the Commission after their interactions with the other organisations are over.
With greetings,
Comradely yours,
(Shiva Gopal Mishra)
Secretary (Staff Side)
NC/JCM
&
Convener
prashant
Allahabad university is a central university but medical coverd auchs(allahabad university contibutery health scheme)but not coverd cghs
Is not best auchs best is cghs
H SRana
Why the government provided single grade Pay for Sr. Auditot ,AAO, Audit officer, Sr.Audit Officer And newly appointed IA&AS Officer.. May be govt never take any interest to Provide the higher Pay Scale at par with Central secretriate ..
Kindly take Nessassory action
vivek kumar
My grievances about the fixation of pay band and grade pay for auditors.
Existing pay band is not justifiable for auditors which work is related with inspection of audits and accounts.
The demand of pay band2 and GP4200 has been sought by the CAG several times in the past,still no measures followed by GOI.It shows inactivity towards CAG which maintains all the records of expenditure of the government.It is grossly unfair.
Banshilal
Sir my rikvest h ki Jo tareds men ka prmosn bhut slo h or sbse jyadha eni ka kam hota h aap ne 6 tha pay me 8 or 16 or 24 wala farmula kiya h VH achha h PR rek to nhi lgti h difrens manistr sab se rikwest h ki aap es prmosn ko on garaund me jwan ko LGA na chahiye tarsmen ke bare jrur soche sir ji hm aap aabhari rhege jay hindh
Manikandan m
Iam serving as MTS.15 eyears service .+2.what is the action of MTS to LDC promotion in 7th cpc.
Prakash C
I am serving as Sr. Auditor for Defence Accounts Department. I went thru the expected pay scales and on finding my expected pay as on 01012016 is much lesser than what is expected normally. Please explain. Further, I would like to remind all Trade Union/Staff Associations that medical facilities thru CGHS be revamped. This point needs to looked into. Thks.
m.r.rajagopal
in the department the hsg 1 grades have been bifurcated(diffrentiated)
with grade pay as rs 4200, 4600, with cut off year as the basis i.e. those who had retired before 2006 their grade pay has been fixed and pay/pension has been fixed as 4200/ while those retired after 2006/ their pay/ pension has been fixed as 4600/ and this looks strange/odd.
for the same cadre viz. HSG1 the grade pay should have been uniformly fixed as rs 4600/as the duties and responsibilities are the same and there should not be any discrimination within the same grade viz HSG1 as it is only a grade pay rs 4600/ should be taken into consideration not with cut off year etc
the seventh pay commission should take into consideration as it is one of the anomalies in the 6th pay commission
i retired as hsg1 subpostmaster in 2002 in the pay scale 6500-200-10500 and my pay was rs 7700/and pension was fixed at rs 3850/ inspite of my references to the GM finance postal accounts and pension grivances cell my genuine plea requesting grade pay of rs 4600/ was ignored citing central govt. executive orders and thus denied my plea of considering enhanced grade pay of rs 4600 instead of rs 4200/ the current pay commission should take this anomaly into account in its recommendation.
in fine there should not be any differentiation in the grade pay with cut off year etc as these posts are designated as HSG1 in the same depatment
please forward this comment to the seventh pay commission
m.r.rajagopal
varinder singh
Will Grant the hesthy pay scale for the class 4 employees for the every states
difference between another catagory
ML Sharma
In CGHS covered area,medical treatment is being received by pensioner on payment basis hence their Medical allowance should not be recovered which is the need of the hour.
ram
The Pay Commission, while submitting its report, should specifically recommend that its recommendations on pay/allowances etc. are subject to the condition that ALL the ‘accepted’ recommendations of the earlier Pay Commissions, should be incorporated in the relevant rules/regulations by all the Services, before considering its (7th CPC) own report. THe responsibility for the same, as coordinator, should either lie with the DOPT or the UPSC.
lokendra singh
all the federations and unions are demanding many good things and grievances of employment but in the same matter no organization had mentioned about the employees of defence civilians whose pay was not even defined in sixth pay commission as defence fire personnel’s especially fire engine driver
therefore it is urged you to look in the matter because without prior pay how can they obtain benefits of seventh pay commission
fire engine drivers pay and grade pay has not been yet defined and they are receiving grade pay of there lower post even after promotion after years passed to sixth pay commission and on the other hand they are working extra duty besides there own duties performing there duty of operating fire pump they have to additionally operate truck fire fighting without any allowances
and yet receiving grade pay rs 1900 in pb-1 as there lower post and yet they have not been benefited completely to sixth pay commission
therefore it is requested you to look in the same matter